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Talamascaa Send Instant Message
Post #: 2982
Chad
TX
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Obama Registered as Indonesian Citizen & a Muslim

WorldNetDaily
Obama's childhood records vindicate Corsi book
Photo shows candidate registered 'as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim'


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Posted: August 17, 2008
8:18 pm Eastern


NEW YORK – An AP photo that recently surfaced showing Barack Obama registered for school as an Indonesian citizen of the Muslim religion provides tangible evidence for some of the claims made by author Jerome Corsi in his best-selling book, "The Obama Nation."
"The Associated Press document provides additional evidence suggesting the Obama campaign's insistence that Obama was never trained in Islam and he never lived as a Muslim is not accurate," author and WND staff reporter Jerome R. Corsi said.
"Moreover, the document indicated that Obama may have been an Indonesian citizen when he lived there," Corsi continued. "This is an issue the Obama rebuttal fails to address at all, evidently conceding the accuracy of the claim."
Corsi discusses these school registration documents on pages 50-52 of "The Obama Nation."
The existence of the school registration was first revealed on the Internet by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" on Jan. 24, 2007.
Since then, the issue has been widely discussed, but without the documentary proof the Associated Press photo has now provided.
Corsi told WND that until the AP photo surfaced, he did not have in his possession a copy of the original.
In the 40-page rebuttal to "The Obama Nation" issued last week by Obama's presidential campaign, the "reality" asserted by the campaign was the school registration only listed the religion of the father, implying the registration established nothing about the religion of Barack Obama, then known as Barry Soetoro.
"The Obama rebuttal misses the point in claiming my statements about the school registration are a lie," Corsi said. "It is clearly true that the 'An American Expat in Southeast Asia' blog did state the registration listed Obama as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim. That is not a lie."
"Now that we have the AP photo, we see the blog was correct in describing the registration," Corsi continued.
(Story continues below)

The only issue at dispute is whether the registration establishes Obama to have been a Muslim, or only registered as one because that was the religion of his father.
"The most convincing evidence Obama was living in Indonesia as a Muslim, not simply registered as Muslim because his father was Muslim, comes from Obama's experience at the government-run public school at SDN 1 Menteng, Jakarta, not from his time at the Catholic Assisi School in Jakarta," Corsi argued.
On pages 59-60 of "The Obama Nation", Corsi cites a Kaltim Post interview with Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers at the public school.
Tine Hahiyary affirmed that Barry Soetoro had been registered as a Muslim and took part actively in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school.
"I remembered that Barry studied 'mengaji,'" she told reporters.
"Mengaji" involves recitation of the Quran.
"To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non-practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to," wrote the 'An American Expat in Southeast Asia' blog.
"The Obama campaign desperately wants to deny Obama was raised as a Muslim child in the four years he lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10," Corsi said. "These are formative years in a child's religious education."
"What the record clearly shows is not only that Obama received Islamic instruction, at least in the public school he attended," Corsi concluded, "but he received the type of Islamic instruction reserved for Muslim children in a government school system that mandated Islamic instruction at that time for all children attending public school in Indonesia."
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09:51am, Wed 03
mel Send Instant Message
Post #: 3862
Melinda
Colorado
Message: [quote]
Chad....how many people have grown up with parents who believed a certain faith and then decided for themselves when they grew up?  As a kid - your parents can sign you up as anything.  Doesn't mean its true for you.  He attended public school in Indonesia because his parents put him there....not because he chose that llife for himself.  When he got to college and started seeking...he found the faith that was best for him.  Get over it .


11:11am, Wed 03
flynner Send Instant Message
Post #: 537
A.
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so what? Right now the US is absolutely hated by the majority of the world, specially the ones that are populated by muslims, they want to kill you all, I dont see how it would be a bad thing to have a leader that could possibly turn those relations around from his past experiences, those crazy fuckers blowing shit up might actually listen to his voice of reason, having him as a leader could help mend some of the hatred, I think.

To base your desicions around some crazy youtube video made by whats left of the KKK is silly, its america, not 1940 Germany, if elected he's not going to secretly plot these insane things, everything he does or says is monitored and approved by the government, to think that America would actually allow the things to happen that the christian rednecks claim will happen is just as crazy.

the state that your country is in right now due to the Bush admin. it would blow my mind if you all kept a government that supports all the wrong he's created, I hate to imagine the state of the US with 4 more years of this. I think the majority of problems that face america right now such as poverty, lack of education and crime primarily found in minorties and of course international relations/wrongful war, Obama inspires hope to those who are the root of the problems and from what I've seen he's concerned for the well being and future of the country and all mccain seems interested in is winning the election just for the sake of winning.

Hey, democrat..republican....dont mean a fuck of a thing to me, obviously I'm neither being Canadian, this is all just my opionion observing everything, I'm on the outside looking in.

11:17am, Wed 03
Talamascaa Send Instant Message
Post #: 2984
Chad
TX
Message: [quote]
I'm not big into declaring myself a republican or democrat either. I ride the fence on many issues.

I just don't trust Obama. I get a bad feeling about him as a leader due to his inexperience and flip flopping. I'll take my chances with McCain and hope in 4 years we have some better options.

Andrew. So we get a muslim friendly fucker in office and if he doesn't live up to the muslim code of ethics, he still pisses them off. Or he makes it easier for terrorists to get in this country because he's being SO empathetic, oops, he lets in a load of invaders that try to take over or destroy our cities. It's just not worth the risk.

And Mel, yeah, I have known kids to grow up to a strong catholic or baptist family only to see them go the other way. But they still carried remnants of that upbringing into their morals and lifes decisions.

Also, i haven't heard him denounce growing up a Muslim. I heard him give a speech saying "We are no longer a Christian nation."

Seems like that would send chills up the spine of a girl who has a giant cross tattooed across her back

11:43am, Wed 03
Talamascaa Send Instant Message
Post #: 2985
Chad
TX
Message: [quote]
I think Newt says it best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR-31DL_leM

01:47pm, Wed 03
mel Send Instant Message
Post #: 3863
Melinda
Colorado
Message: [quote]
Quote from Talamascaa
"I'm not big into declaring myself a republican or democrat either. I ride the fence on many issues.

I just don't trust Obama. I get a bad feeling about him as a leader due to his inexperience and flip flopping. I'll take my chances with McCain and hope in 4 years we have some better options.

Andrew. So we get a muslim friendly fucker in office and if he doesn't live up to the muslim code of ethics, he still pisses them off. Or he makes it easier for terrorists to get in this country because he's being SO empathetic, oops, he lets in a load of invaders that try to take over or destroy our cities. It's just not worth the risk.

And Mel, yeah, I have known kids to grow up to a strong catholic or baptist family only to see them go the other way. But they still carried remnants of that upbringing into their morals and lifes decisions.

Also, i haven't heard him denounce growing up a Muslim. I heard him give a speech saying "We are no longer a Christian nation."

Seems like that would send chills up the spine of a girl who has a giant cross tattooed across her back "

What's to denounce?  Is it against the law to be Muslim?  He is not a practicing Muslim today....non-radical Muslims are not anti-Christian.  They have deep respect for Jesus and the facets of the Christian faith.  Don't buy into everything you see on youtube....


06:49pm, Wed 03
Talamascaa Send Instant Message
Post #: 2987
Chad
TX
Message: [quote]
do you even listen to your own argument before making a new one?

You said "how many people have grown up with parents who believed a certain faith and then decided for themselves when they grew up?"

Now you're saying how great Muslims are just in case he might still have some Muslim tendencies.

Sounds like you're the one who's been brainwashed my friend. It's okay though. You're in the most democratic state in the country. You can't help the brainwashing.

07:13pm, Wed 03
mel Send Instant Message
Post #: 3865
Melinda
Colorado
Message: [quote]
I have no doubt he is not a practicing Muslim.  I just wonder where you get off denouncing someone else's faith?  Obama is a Christian....but that isn't why he has my support.


06:19am, Thu 04
mel Send Instant Message
Post #: 3866
Melinda
Colorado
Message: [quote]
Des


09:52am, Thu 04
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Post #: 801
adam
ca
Message: [quote]
it doesn't matter people... obama gonna win the next election anyway... here come the new taxes!!

10:02am, Thu 04


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